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Post by Evil Thingy on Oct 6, 2004 8:50:01 GMT -5
I think linkin park are only seen as a commercial band because they are so popular, and its unfair. I know about their origins and they weren't scouted by some big company, they are a self-formed band apart from chester who's own band split up so he tried out for linkin park. but that was in the very early days before they had a deal or even changed their name.
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ACE
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Post by ACE on Oct 6, 2004 9:20:37 GMT -5
ok. dey r a really gud band tho
n how did u now dat n e way??
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Post by dangermouse on Oct 6, 2004 14:55:50 GMT -5
fair enough andy, maybe they ent commercial, but they're also not developing. the best bands have to move with the times, but they've stuck with their same sound. blink 182 did gr8 till the last album, where it was basically a coollaberation of all the other stuff in2 new songs. linkin park are 2 samey, though they do have a good sound. not memorable rock gods lets say. im in2 more specialist rock though, like placebo (well.. its kinda specialist), velvet revolver, and COUGH papa roach. they are the shit. im tellin ya.
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Post by Andy on Oct 6, 2004 15:18:01 GMT -5
they aren't samesy, i have listened to both albums looaaaaads and although some songs are obviously similar, the style changed loads in most songs. you have never really listened to meteora properly.and i dont know why you think they wil be forgotten, i personally think that they will become one of the legends. they are already most of the way there.
I went on some website that had the whole story on it to see if they had been put together or not. and they weren't
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Post by Dave on Oct 6, 2004 15:33:30 GMT -5
andy I dont dislike them because theyre "too comercial" but because theyre rubbish nu metal and coz theyre really bad, like papa roach, theyre too over synthesized and digital, which can be good but with linkin park its just rubbish. Theyre not a "great" band and I seriously doubt that anyone (apart from idiots with bad taste) will look up to them in a few years with the same reverence that people look up to Led Zep, The Who, Jimmi Hendrix and the other great innovators and bands. I agree that theyre not bad, but theyre just average and all of their music sounds pretty samey I swear they just change the lyrics formatt and name of a song and claim it to be different also Paul have you actually listened to blinks new album? and compared it to the other albums? what you seem to have overlooked is that with this album theyve created more than anything theyve done before, they've actually written songs with meaning and purpuse, their new album is far deeper and textured and far better both musically and in their songs than any material they've ever created before, as an example listen to a comparison between "wanna fuck a dog up the arse" and "miss you" see what I mean? gone are the palm muted power chords in the same punk rythym, gone are the simple riffs repeated over and over and gone are the mindless lyrics. I dont know how you can say that "it was basically a coollaberation of all the other stuff in2 new songs" because they've never done anything like this before.
(quote from simpleton who loves inscecntly listening to the same song repeated for two albums)
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Post by Andy on Oct 7, 2004 12:34:53 GMT -5
OH MY GOD I JUST WROTE ABOUT 16 LINES AND IT DIDN'T WORK. screw it, your wrong and you suck camel balls + you didn't give any real reasons just some offending terms and your opinion. i cant be bothered writing it again right now
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Louise
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Post by Louise on Oct 7, 2004 15:13:42 GMT -5
*rolls up sleeves*
First off, if you like Linkin Park, fair enough. I, personally, don't like them, they're not really my thing. But, Paul, bands don't have to develop constantly. The Strokes - Room On Fire was similar to the first album, but hey, it was still okay, still enjoyable, still a good listen. Sure, they got a kick up the ass for it, but at least they weren't sucking on corporate dick. If band go for a sound, find it works for them and they're happy doing it, then why not? And Blink 182 are doing this thing that's called 'growing up', and they should be congratulated for it.
So, Linkin Park...the whole nu-metal, rap-metal, etc. thing doesn't appeal to me and I seriously doubt they will be in the Greatest Bands of All Time in 20 years. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, because I also doubt The White Stripes will be in the Greatest Bands of All Time in 20 years either (and they're my favourite band) because they're interpretors, not innovators. If you want to plead the case of a band and try and convince us all that we should worship them, find someone who are doing something new, fresh, unique (please note: in this day and age, that is almost impossible to do. Nearly everything has already been done and our time is not that of innovation, but interpretation).
Feel free to shout at me, throw insults, call me a Prententious Indie Kid Who Should Get Her Converse Put Where The Sun Don't Shine (yes, someone of lesser intelligence did actually tell me to do this once. I beg you to be more creative), I don't mind. I've heard it all before. I'm just offering my opinion.
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Louise
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Post by Louise on Oct 7, 2004 15:15:06 GMT -5
And Jimi Hendrix - Fire, is one of the best songs ever recorded. I love it.
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Post by mike on Oct 7, 2004 15:48:17 GMT -5
hello, i am here to state a few things, 1 linkin park have very poorly written lyrics, they have no meaning, no sense and what brings them down even more is that the vocalists are shite at singing. the guitarist who ever he is has been cursed with the fingers of an oaf, i mean i can play better electric guitar vthan him and im a bassist for heavens sake. Dont get me started on the bass, omg, its so poor, i mean he has no rhythm what so ever. anyway all in all linkin park are a bag of shit. bye
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Post by Emma on Oct 7, 2004 15:53:28 GMT -5
Linkin Park Suck - End of Discussion - No More to be said - Conversation Closed
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Post by Dave on Oct 7, 2004 16:01:20 GMT -5
ok you want reasons 1) the songs are bad and samey 2) theyre over synthesised and over covered with distortion and effects, getting away from actually playing their instrument 3) they play over backing tracks live (not just samples from the DJ and not just bits recorded from the background but main guitar parts are recorded and played through the PA so all he has to do is play over them) 4) They're obviously trying to make a "massive" sound but they fail miserably, their whole albums is extremely weak and very thin, just listen to U2 or Longview and you'll understand what I mean by a big full sound 5) I've listened to their albums and Im yet to hear a song and think "wow"; however I have though on numerous occasions "these lyrics are poop" its not that they dont make sense because they do, but the phrasing is rubbish and half the time he's trying to over extend words just to fit the song also he repeats the same lyrics too often. 6)the choruses to every song suck bigger than the verses usually if the verse is rubbish the chorus makes up for it, but noooo theyre even worse 7) It doesn't make them any better that they "weren't formed by a record label".......well at least according to their own website 8)Nu Metal is the worst genre in the world (rap, hip hop and dance not included) its made especially for kiddies who cant cope with full on metal but are too depressed for punk pop and proper rock (ie:andy) and Linkin Park are the esscence of nu metal 9)its all the same, rapping verse, screaming chorus, rap, scream, scream interlude, then maybe to add to add to that, some rapping, then some screaming, and then end it with a really really BIG scream. 10)They don't really do anything original or what most would consider melodically sensible but they make up for that by using as much synth and effects that make their songs sould "cool". When it comes down to it, they're songs are almost all developed in a pop structure....how many of you secretly love britney and busted? 11) www.zenhex.com/quiz.php?id=1965 (just proof its not just me) 12) "We're trying to combine the elements to become one music... It just so happens that everything is so corporate these days, everything needs to be categorized. So we're just trying to help close those gaps a little bit." hmmm andy I love your whole "theyre not coporate" thing but just look at that, I think it says all! 13)Brad delson sucketh 14) theyre overproduced like the new metallica album 15) chester does sound like a 12 year old girl half the time! 16)Linkin Park- a boyband with guitars err thats as much as i can be bothered with!
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Post by Dave on Oct 7, 2004 16:26:07 GMT -5
one thing, i don't know why it doesn't even matter how hard they try keep that in mind, that i designed this rhyme to explain in due time that they stink music is a valuable thing watch it get worse as the pendulum swings watch it get worse every single day like linkin park and avril, it's so unreal didn't expect this much so many rap-rock bands, nĂ¼-metal sucks i try to listen, but i don't even know that they'd play so much crap on the radio i kept my feelings all inside and even though i tried, this music's still bad it used to be important to me, but now it all stinks a memory of a time when
they tried so hard and got so far but in the end, we end up with linkin park and limp bizkit it's stupid sh*t and in the end, we end up with linkin park
one thing, i don't know why it doesn't even matter how hard they try keep that in mind, that i designed this rhyme to explain in due time that they stink in spite of the way i am mocking them linkin park is obviously a corporate sham put together by a company to sell them that's the only way they got so far music isn't the way it was before i can hardly listen to it anymore i didn't savor it back then but this is what we get in the end i kept my feelings all inside and even though i tried, this music's still bad it used to be important to me, but now it all stinks a memory of a time when
they tried so hard and got so far but in the end, we end up with linkin park and limp bizkit it's stupid sh*t and in the end, we end up with linkin park
music industry is sad all these new bands these days blow listen here, there's only one thing that i know music from back in '92 hardly sucked as much as new music does, that's the one thing that i know
they tried so hard and got so far but in the end, we end up with linkin park and limp bizkit it's stupid sh*t and in the end, we end up with linkin park
and thats how the lyrics to in the end should go
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Post by dangermouse on Oct 8, 2004 4:21:25 GMT -5
*rolls up sleeves* But, Paul, bands don't have to develop constantly. ah, but they do. that wasnt the end of my arqument by the way. they must develop to move away from what becomes common from the oft overplayed tracks. to become unique, something all bands must strive for, they must develop till u can instantly recognise them b4 u have heard the song fully. linkin park, yes, have a sound that is they're own, but its the same sound in essence. im sorry, this arqument cant be won andrew. linkin park are nowhere near the title of legends. legends are: the beatles Guns n Roses Thin Lizzy T-Rex and the like they will never be in this category, there music, quite simply,. is not clever enough. it sounds good, but it isnt brilliant, masterfully put together pieces of art, and music is art. ok, the beatles stuff can be playd by almost any1 with sum sort of knowledge of frets on a guitar, but, although i dont enjoy it, it must be appreicated. no, linkin park are not on the verge of legendary status. aerosmith would be insulted if i didnt mention them (as i am the forefront knowledge on the music industry...)
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Post by dangermouse on Oct 8, 2004 4:22:32 GMT -5
hello, i am here to state a few things, 1 linkin park have very poorly written lyrics, they have no meaning, no sense and what brings them down even more is that the vocalists are shite at singing. the guitarist who ever he is has been cursed with the fingers of an oaf, i mean i can play better electric guitar vthan him and im a bassist for heavens sake. Dont get me started on the bass, omg, its so poor, i mean he has no rhythm what so ever. anyway all in all linkin park are a bag of shit. bye shut up u uneducated cock. if ur going to present an arqument, structure it, and give valid arquments. dick. oh, an good song dave
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Post by Sarcasity2 on Oct 8, 2004 8:36:21 GMT -5
I am sorry Andy but i have to agree with Paul and Dave I my self like linkin park but they cant come close to the likes of Free, U2, Hendrix and Led Zep. Sorry andy but they just aint that good.
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